Is his or her LIFE worth it?

[VersesofTheStreet]

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[Thread moved by: Carolyn. Reason: This is turning into a deep topic, and the discussion would end up fitting here better]

[Nobody]

Think about this:

A girl, 15 years old, gets raped. Her life is effectively ruined and on top of that, she just got pregnant. Who has the right to tell her, 'killing' her unborn baby would be wrong or right? It's her decision. Either she's strong enough to carry the child of a monster or she just isn't.

Or if my girlfriend and I found out she was pregnant, because one of the condoms tore, while we were having sex. I wouldn't want to be the person to tell her, she should keep it. It's up to her. We have our whole lives ahead of us, what if we break up? She'd have to raise a baby all on her own. I wouldn't want to put that weight on her shoulders.

Those are two situations I would count as 'It's-okay-to-'kill'-the baby' situations

Of course there are situation's in which i would disagree with the decision to abort, but I think It's not really possible to define abortion as 'murder'

Of course, you're taking life away from something, but it isn't aware of what's going on. It can't understand what's happening.

Kind of like a tree. Just because I chop it down, is it to be considered 'murder'?

Some would say yes, I suppose. But to me, it's kind of like that. The tree isn't aware of what's happening. It just exists, to reproduce, as the fetus only exists, to be fed until it has grown enough to be born and then it's purpose, just like the tree, is to reproduce.

Just my opinion. Maybe a little unclear in some points, but I tried making my point of view clear enough for everyone.

[Poetic Lass]

I must go along with Arri here, for the most part. I can understand the 2 awful things, 1) killing of a life. 2) a rape victim who doesn't want to raise the child. (Please let me add I was a rape victim over several years, I can understand.) But when it comes down to it if the person doesn't want the child or can't care for it, I've always thought adoption was the way to go because think about this factor, so many couples try anything and everything to have a child to love, the baby could be happy and it could bring so much joy to a couple, and who knows maybe one of these aborted baby's could have been a great contribution to this world, cures for diseases, therapists, crisis workers, another thing is a lot of women who have abortions in the long run go through severe guilts, nightmares, shames that don't go away.


Just my point of view, but know to all, I'm not bashing, just showing my point of view..


xxx

[Jay]

Well what I say now will either make you like me or hate me ...

I had an abortion ... I was 17 I was not raped it was with the man who in the end became my husband. However I have regretted doing it from the moment I woke from the proceedure. I would now have a 15 year old son if I had kept my baby. I was young and imature and so I was given the impression from those who should have given me all the choices that aborting was the best option for me ... I had my whole life ahead of me they told me. Well because of my action ... and being naive and uninformed my life was taken from me ... I have felt guilt and hatred for the last 16 years for taking my babies life, for taking away the chance for my little baby to be able to run, laugh, cry and be held by me ... instead of memories I have loss.

I do not mean to offend anyone here I am just telling of my experience ... and the pain it has caused me ... These days here in Australia a girl can not have an abortion with out counselling or being given all the options, I only wish 16 years ago that was so. :(

[Poetic Lass]

another thing is a lot of women who have abortions in the long run go through severe guilts, nightmares, shames that don't go away.









and being naive and uninformed my life was taken from me ... I have felt guilt and hatred for the last 16 years for taking my babies life, for taking away the chance for my little baby to be able to run, laugh, cry and be held by me ... instead of memories I have loss.

:(

See, that was one of my points.


and I don't hate you, Andrea, I don't hate anyone. :hug: (I just don't believe in abortion, but i'm not the type of person to hate, I feel for your baby and you.)

[Silver Wind]

Everyone has the right to mkae the choice for themself if they want an aborition or not, whatever there reason or situation might be. I do not think anyone should make that choice for someone else. And abortions are not new they have been going on sense human beings have walked the earth in one form or another, they are not going to stop. If abortions were made illegal, that would not end abortion just make people have more dangerous abortions, in what is called back alley abortions. People have always found a way, and they always will if that is what they really want.

I genreally disagree with people trying to impose thier morals upon someone else.

[Poetic Lass]

Everyone has the right to mkae the choice for themself if they want an aborition or not, whatever there reason or situation might be. I do not think anyone should make that choice for someone else. And abortions are not new they have been going on sense human beings have walked the earth in one form or another, they are not going to stop. If abortions were made illegal, that would not end abortion just make people have more dangerous abortions, in what is called back alley abortions. People have always found a way, and they always will if that is what they really want.

I genreally disagree with people trying to impose thier morals upon someone else.

I can understand what you are saying, you're right in that people would do it no matter what. I'm just saying I personally would never have one and I wish that people would try to find other ways to deal with this.


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[Silver Wind]

I can understand your feelings, about that, though I cannot say I personaly share those feelings though I hope I do not find myself in such a posistion, I personaly just do not wish to have kids and I am very pro-choice.

But I do think it should be a complete personal choice, I do not think politics or religion or personal philosophy sholud try and dictate to another person what choices they choose to make.

It is fine to provide information to people for other possible soulutions, but I do not think that others should try and force thier own will and try to make another perons choice for them.

[Perfectly Imperfect]

Ooh, interesting topic, and something I find myself struggling with alot. As some of you may know, I gave birth to my beautiful son at 27 weeks, and he did not make it. I was 18 years old at the time, young, but ready to start a life, and a family of my own. Unfortuantely, I lost my child. Anyways, on the the point..Regardless of whether I had him or not..I would never have chosen to have an abortion. I, as Carolyn, am a victim of rape, and can still say that I wouldn't go through with an abortion. This however, doesn't change my opinion of those who have had abortions. I have a few close friends who have gone through with this, and I don't hate them..wouldn't dare hate them for a decision that they thought was for the best. I think there are certain situations in which it is more accepted to have an abortion, but as others have said, I don't think politics, religion, etc should be forced on another person to make a life altering decision. Just my opinion, and I'm sure I'm rambling..

Anyways, I hope I haven't offended anyone here. x